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IMPORTANT RULE MODIFICATION!
IMPORTANT RULE FOR UPCOMING ROUNDS REGARDING FILLS:

In order for fills to not get lost in the !filled tags on delicious, please nest your fill. This means that if your fanfic fill has multiple parts, reply to part 1 to add the new update. It makes it easier for us to rec it for delicious as its own fill and not to the prompt directly. And it lets people coming from delicious see your entire story. 

EDIT: You can also reply to your previous part to make your fill nest. e.g. reply to part 1 with part 2, reply with part 3 to part 2 and so on.

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Question about that -

(Anonymous)
I've seen some authors who reply to part 1 with part 2, and then part 3 is a reply to 2, etc. Personally, I find that easier to read because then each time I get a message that it was updated, I see the previous part (and remember which fic it is), followed by the newest part. Otherwise, I see the newest part as a reply to the first part each time, and I get a little lost trying to figure out what happened right before.

So... my question is: is it still nested enough for Delicious if authors reply to each part? Or do they have to reply to just part 1 each time?

Does that make sense at all? lol

Re: Question about that -

yes, what you described as a reply to each part is still nested. Either way is fine for me, it just gets complicated when authors reply with multiple parts to the actual prompt. In that case we have to rec the prompt.

Can I ask what the problem with linking to the prompt is?

It get difficult with multiple fills to archive each fill as a separate rec when we can also link to the prompt due to parts of the fill getting lost when coming from delicious if we archive the fill...

okay that probably didn't make sense:
Think of it this way, an anon posts a prompt, one person replies with a multi-part fill, linking each part directly to the prompt. In this case and what we do for a one fill, we would rec the prompt directly and tag it as !filled. However, say another person fills the prompt, the same way: replying with a multi-part fill and each part linked directly to the prompt. This causes us to link directly to the prompt again. Delicious, (in its genius) has a thing against duplicate bookmarks. So basically, the only change that would happen in this case would be that it gets a !multi-fill tag and would still have same date as the previous fill/prompt post.

However, if a person links their parts to one another or nests them. It will allow us to create a different bookmark for that fill. Thus, putting it on top of the !filled tag list.

Aha! I see what you're saying, and why that must be a really big hassle for multi-fills.

But I've found that when you nest your posts, it gets to a point where the subject is shortened to just '...' and so when you look through the comments you can't actually distinguish between general replies or comments and the sections of the fill itself without going through everything and thus you can't tell immediately when a WIP has been updated.

I'm wondering if maybe a way to avoid this problem and still make it easy for you to avoid the duplicate bookmarks issue would be to post an initial comment in reply to a prompt and then post the sections of your fill in reply to this comment?

I know we don't have quite as many multi-fills yet but it is something to work on in the future.

I know. That's one of the problems that I saw. In that case, it would be easier to have the next parts as a reply to the first part.

I'm wondering if maybe a way to avoid this problem and still make it easy for you to avoid the duplicate bookmarks issue would be to post an initial comment in reply to a prompt and then post the sections of your fill in reply to this comment?

That's basically what I'm hoping that people will do. This makes sense right: reply to part 1 to add the new update? I probably need to reword it in some way.

I just want to make sure that everyone's fill doesn't get lost in the next round so I'm trying to get out there so that people will know before I post round 3.

Mhmm, mhmm, everything you've said there makes sense.

I just want to clarify again for my own peace of mind because I don't want to do something that makes your job anymore difficult but I also wanna make sure that when I fill things it's set out as coherently as possible for anyone reading ... would it hypothetically be okay to post parts 2, 3 etc. each as a reply to part 1? So instead of losing your subject line the further into the nest you venture by posting part 2 as a reply to part 1 and part 3 as a reply to part 2 and so on and so forth, you're posting every part after part 1 as a reply to part 1? Does that seem feasible?

So it would go like this:

Prompt
-Fill Part 1
--Fill Part 2
--Fill Part 3
--Fill Part 4

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Yep. Perfectly :D

(Anonymous)
And just to be clear...

Prompt
-Fill Part 1
-Fill Part 2
-Fill Part 3
-Fill Part 4

is acceptable too?

Because, I, like the anon above, tend to get a little lost when everything links back to part 1. (Of course, it's infinitely harder when everything links back to the prompt! lol)

(Anonymous)
whoops... I guess spaces don't carry over. That's meant to be:

Prompt
-Fill part 1
--Fill part 2
---Fill part 3
----Fill part 4

:)

This format is correct. :)

related question

(Anonymous)
So... If I post a fill in little parts, but then I later go back and post the fill in its entirety somewhere else (an LJ account, ff.net, a03, etc)

How does that work for Delicious? If I post a note on my fill here with the link to the complete fill, will that eventually show up in Delicious? Or will it always be linked to my chopped up first fill?

Just wondering because I tend to edit and make things a little nicer after it's posted here. I'd hate for the chopped up version to be the only one anyone ever sees.

Re: related question

the way that the archiving works is that we will link the first fill to the prompt, that way if people want to fill it again, they have the ability to. Your comment featuring the fill elsewhere will show up at the very bottom of the thread or at least where you posted it within the prompt thread. Don't forget that we also have a fill post, where you can edit/add to your original comment to post a link to the cleaned up version of the fill.

Re: related question

(Anonymous)
different anon - but I was wondering about that.

If I post my fill to the meme part by part, but then don't post to the fill post until I've posted the cleaned up version, will the archive link to my cleaned up version, since that's the one on the filled post? Or will it go back and link to the bits I posted part by part? (Or would it just link to whichever link I provide?)

Thanks for the clarification! Sorry for being confusicated! 8)

Re: related question

(Anonymous)
I was wondering that as well. If someone begins to post a fill - does it automatically get added to delicious? Or only if it's linked to the fill post?

I wonder because I'd hate to see fills end up in the archive that never got finished.

Re: related question

Realistically, as soon as you start filling a prompt, more likely then not, it'll be added to the archive within 48 hours. The link in the filled post is to make sure that I don't miss anything (especially in the older rounds).

I wonder because I'd hate to see fills end up in the archive that never got finished.
Unfortunately, that sometimes happens. RL or writer's block gets the best of us and can leave a story unfinished.

Re: related question

The way that I do archiving is that I once (okay more than once usually) a day check the round entry. If I see a prompt that started to get filled but I see, then I archive it as filled because there are others like me that forget to post a link to the fill in the Filled entry. Realistically, as soon as you start filling a prompt, more likely then not, it'll be added to delicious within 48 hours. The link in the filled post is to make sure that I don't miss anything (especially in the older rounds).
Basically, the archive will link to the bits that you posted part by part. You can post a link to the cleaned up version afterwards in the same post thread.
okay: using example here -> http://suitsmeme.livejournal.com/2038.html?thread=1568502#t1568502
You can do something like that. That way if people want to see if there is a cleaned up version, they are able to scroll down and get the link for that.

Hey, I just wanted to apologize for not previously nesting. This is my first time participating in a kink meme and I know I'm often screwing things up. Thanks for hosting, this has been a really fun place for me to be, and I promise to nest from now on.

No need to apologize. I'm glad that your participating in the kink meme and that you're having a great time here. :)

(Anonymous)
Hi, just popping in to say there have been a few errors in the !filled tag on Delicious. Some haven't even been replied to and some have just commentary on the prompts, no fills at all, but they're being tagged as filled.

Not sure if this is an error or just someone making a few mistakes, but just pointing it out!

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